STNICCC 25th Anniversary Realtime Article!
19.52hrs - 18.12.15
And the realtime article is now open!!
Usual rules apply, ah, what the hell, you'll do as you please anyway!
Well there is one thing. It applies to the organiser of this party, Mr
Kronos himself. Any demi-holy spoutings of text will have to be
certified by the pope, or Dali Lama (Jeff Minter). Any unholy
ejaculations will not be permitted!
CiH - So nearly time for dinner!
19.58hrs - 18 dec 2015
earx here. just arrived 2 hrs ago.. already filling up with all the
familiar faces and some less familiar faces from before the time i was
involved in the demo scene, real oldschool st guys.
this stacy is really sweet. it seems to have mega st keyboard, which is
all nice and clicky. rich seems to have borrowed it from the computer
museum. good job. since this is an atari party i'll work a bit on my
ST midi sequencer here. :)
20:59 - 18 dec
The Frenchieshqve finally found the party place. Quite a bunch of us
actually. Hate this qwerty keyboard.
21.19 - 18 12 15
An amazingly keen dinner followed my first log entry, along with the
most amazing atmosphere of companionship and good cheer. I opted for
seconds of both.
There are some interesting releases due from some interesting people.
I've been sworn to secrecy on one of these. I may reveal more later on.
By the time the compo's have done, it's academic anyway.
CiH
Rainbow here, Felice's wife. I've been put up to this by CiH, who wants
a random drunken text entry. Tough. I'm not drunk. Swapped my Acer
laptop keyboard for a real old-skool reminder of what the keyboards
were like when I was in secretarial school around a quarter of a
century ago...eep.
First time for this Stacy2 out of the UK I think but it seems to be
holding up well. CiH got it configured rather well for the realtime
stuffs so here we go !
Felice.
22:21
So it is about 15 years and 15 kilos on, and here I am sitting behind
the Atari computer I'd always had on my wish list. With a keyboard that
I really have to get used too.
This day, in fact the past half year, has been an avalanche culminating
in, well, a near-orgiastic old-skool Atari experience. And once I am
getting used to the keyboard I am not too bad, although my English
sentence structure goes down the drain.
Back to about 12 hours ago, when I was sitting alone in this building
doing little manual stuff to prepare for STNICCC. Now I am hearing chip
music and there are people all over the place doing Atari-ey stuff.
It is just about the same as years ago, but now we're older and have
children and/or wives, or at least wish more frantically that we'd
have them.
I am more beat than I care to admit and tomorrow hasn't even happened
yet. Tomorrow is going to be utterly, utterly, UTTERLY awesome.
Back to others, I will be back somewhen.
Cronos
22.38hrs
Most expected people for Friday have arrived. In a shock repeat of
events from 2000 (and 1990, according to the party organiser himself),
the various nationalities and sub-strata of the Atari scene have split
themselves off into different rooms. The Frenchies taking up a lot of
space in bulk at the back of the school. It's happened here too. In
our classroom of fun, the main companions are the cycling duo of PHF
with gwEm and other related people. With a smattering of Earx and
Paradox.
The party is at a lull stage, where various options, including going
out on the Xmassy lit Gouda old town are being considered. We'll see.
CiH.
Grazey here, gwEm just attempted to lift this stacy - struggle was the
word
saturday 1:00AM
earx on the keys.. this party is sweet. dinner was a professional afair
with a lot of space, in fact there's a great amount of space
everywhere. the location is great. spoke to some more people, even
joined the orgos for a bit of setting up of the beamer and screen.
coded a bit on the atari st midi step sequencer.. all in all a great
day. looking forward to tomorrow! hitting the hay oldschool style.
sleeping right here in the building.. although, it's really quite
luxurious compared to the gym halls of yore!
2:34 Mr.XY trying to type on an Atari Stacy. Never seen this machine
working before. Unfortunately i get my Falcon not working correctly.
But i"m in the mood to do some old school gfx. Maybe on my smartphone,
or i'll go sleeping directly...crhhhh
08:18
The building is almost completely deserted. Darkness. Day two is about
to start and I hope/think it will be corker!
Cronos
10:00
I arrived at the location half an hour ago and was caught by surprise
that most people are either still taking their breakfast or sleeping.
Gerry
10:20
TLB has arrived! After a nice walk trhough the old town center and some
good coffee at the 'Koffiefabriek' Tim (Manikin), David (Spaz) and
myself (Digital Insanity) had a rather good reunion with the one and
only Richard Karsmakers. Such nostalgia. It really has been 25 year...
Stefan
10:28
Meeting people I only knew by nickname is a major dissapointment. They
are just regular nice human beiings like the rest of us :)
Reading all the scrolltexts when I was young made me believe they were
all tough villans with eye-patches and tattoos everywhere!
Slept well enough and took a shower..
TiNKer
10:47
Standard greeting:- "Did you sleep well?"
Standard response:- "Yes, thank you!"
My response:- "No, my room-mate turned out to be a raving alcoholic!"
Short version (longer version will be in my party report) There seemed
to be potential issues with Bod. It was the first time abroad and he
was busy looking for sources of booze from the start.
We got back to the hotel at midnight and he turned up in reception,
having being picked up by the police. When asked about this, he said
this happened quite often at home.
A hotel purchased bottle of Jack Daniels made its way up to the room.
And that was the end of any possible nights sleep.
Several hours of teetering on the edge of a fight or flight response
followed, whilst the noises from the drunken corner got progressively
more alarming.
Eventually, when morning appeared. He was told that his presence in the
room was not required for the following evening. An attempt by Bod to
book another room was only completed between the very patient
receptionist and myself.
At the time of departure from the hotel, he was still snoring on my
bed, but had a new room and directions how to get there left for him.
The walk in to the party place was a soothing contrast, with pleasant
people doing normal things. I even managed a final bit of Xmas shopping
from a dusty little shop by the canal, with interesting things.
A coffee and cake break later, I'm ready to resume party doings.
CiH - I'll laugh about this, when I've had a proper nights sleep.
11:13
Rainbow again. I didn't break Stacy-on-loan last time so I was allowed
to have another go.
Today, despite the fact that I have not had breakfast or lunch yet, I
HAVE located the free tea and coffee. Together with free biscuits.
The cake may be a lie, but the biscuits are definitely real, yummy
cookies keeping body and soul on the same planet until lunchtime.
Teapot on legs is enjoying the selection of fruit and herbal teas on
offer - a welcome change from black tea and milk which I usually drink
pint-wise back home.
G33k out.
11:33
Baggio here. I adore this Atari Stacy. I wish it was mine. My own. My
precious. The party have been great so far, alot of familiar faces and
also alot of new ones...esp the older atari sceners i have never met
before. Had a good time last night but because of a rather nasty cold i
had to turn in early. Hope to produce something musicy today as
inspiration seems to have finally found me. Seems like alot of people
hit the drinking pretty hard last night and are having a bit of a sleep
in today. Time to leave my precious behind and try to be creative for a
bit. Cheerio!
12:20
Hi D-Force here. I've just gotten here an the first thing I'm looking
at is this beautiful Stacy2, wow! That I've gotten the chance to ever
meet this precious. And even get to touch it! :) Very very nice.
Now to find the right people here, just met some of the 'old-guys' nice
to see them again as if time has stood still. Old party feelings again.
I'm wondering what and who else I get to see here.
And more important for me is that I hope that Lotharek can fix my
Falcon and if there is time left MegaSTe. Which I couldn't fix myself.
See you in a bit.
12:30
Pete Lyon here, Well I arrived and stunned to meet lots of people who
are very kind about my old work. Feel a bit of a fraud to be honest,
as I have had little to do with games for a few years.
Not used to being the centre of some interest.
I'm promised lunch... so I need some tea.
:::::Rob Hubbard here..... Met lots of really nice cool folks, and
exchanged great stories and memories of the golden age of computers.
Now for a bit of lunch!!
here is Oscar. richard is my dad here it is fun here with the cabs.
12.58
Lunch is in the building. Grazey and Cal are comparing local knowledge
with fellow Hull citizen Rob Hubbard. They all support the 'correct'
football team, which is alright then.
CiH.
13:04
Only being here for less than a day, but already had a lot of fun
talking to old friends of the Indypendent. Some things are just
timeless.
Pictures for the compo are final. Now it's just to hope newscool style
is liked by oldscool people. ;-) This afternoon we'll use the time to
head over to Amsterdam and have a little culture tour. Just need to be
back in time for the demoshow.
Samurai
13:21
Rainbow back again. Slowly working through the pile of teas from the
stash next door. Chocolate tea is a bit of a misnomer, but then I
wasn't really expecting Dairy Milk in a teabag, was I?
Lunch was a delicious mix of rolls, pancakes and soup, fortifying us
all for a long afternoon, evening and night of coding, gaming, typing,
writing, chatter and alcohol of various persuasions.
Met Rob Hubbard and WizTom earlier - names and faces slowly falling
into place.
14:00
It's been a long, long time since I've ever added anything to a real
time article, and yet it's the first time I've ever used an Atari
Stacy. My muscle memory is too used to a normal PC keyboard, that I
keep pressing the ` key when I mean to press the Backspace. How did I
type in so much drivel back in the dim and distant days, using a
keyboard layout such as this?
Mug UK
14.05
Slightly hungover
gwEm/PHF
14:10
Beer run... Obiviously to observe only. Bumped in to gwEm on route.
Maybe a new tune coming from him later. Maybe depends if he see's the
delivery!
LFEE/Armalyte
14:40
Beer run a success (Grazey a Tronic happy bunnies! :-)
LFEE/Armalyte
14:43 This is Armin from TOS (German mag, folded 1993 or so). Still
midly hammered. Not my fault. Daryl from TEX is to blame who decided
not to leave my hotel room before 4am leaving trillions of empty beer
cans behind. Waiting now for some chip tune show that is supposed to
start at 3pm. Rob Hubbard anybody?
15:43 LSL is showing his Nintendo DS ST Chipsound DJ set. Pretty
impressing stuff. Also, seeing TEX lurking and shouting anecdotes
around their old songs is somewhat unreal.
tIn/newline
15:47 It's really impressing to have all this people around here! Some
of them I didn't meet for almost 15 years. Can't wait for the compos!!
;)
Mr.Coke/absence./CPT
16:04 Its been a busy few hours, and a lot of catching up has been
done. Some people have changed a lot in 25 years, some not so much. And
it's been great to see the demos we worked on all that time ago still
being loved. Some of the art I produced still looks great today. But I
doubt I would be able to do it again.
Spaz/The Lost Boys
16:10 Having a great time here, as expected. Nice to meet friends again
and to meet people such as TLB, Mad Max, Rob Hubbard and so on. They
were (and still are) legends when I was a teenager ;-) I can't wait for
the compos tonight!
Strider/MJJProd
16:17
This has been harvesting text nicely!
So far this afternoon, a quiet one, apart from Defjam's ST Zik chiptune
set, which was nicely noisy. Have been taking things as slowly as
possible, bearing in mind earlier events (!)
Of the non-prodigal son, no sign of a return so far. May it stay that
way.
The latest demo rumour to reach my ears, Cream (As in Agent T and that
lot) have got something for the party. No, it's not the famously
missing in action 'Heftig', but something completely different.
But that is for laters, as they say.
CiH.
16:43
Well I can't really believe how great this day has been. Twice I nearly
cried when talking to Robb, recounting how my seriously sad existence
of the late eighties started with a ritual of listening to
Knucklebusters before school, and how happy I became when I listened to
the TEX version of International Karate (in the Little Sound Demo
unless I am sorely mistaken) and I realised there was a guy who could
do good music on the ST. Seriously, I felt tears pricking at my right
eye.
Rob effing Hubbard actually in the same rooms as us, here, now, words
of expletive power fail to describe the level of my chuffedness. And
Pete Lyon, of course. The two of them ended up posing with each other
and other attendants, patient like true professionals.
But to emphasize the monumental momentaciousness of their presence
would be to underplay the presence of all the other attendants,
including former co- conspirator and ex-ex-ex-master editor of ST NEWS.
Mr Stefan Posthuma. To mention anyone here is to sell short everyone
else, so I am not going to.
Anyway, when biting back a tear at lunch with my childhood heroes and
my wife, I told her that this was probably one of the happiest moments
of my life. I am choking up a bit now, recollecting the moment. Time
for me to sign off, maybe until later.
Cronos
17.10
Wow. Flashback after flashback here. Enjoyed meeting my former
compagnon @ STRIKE-a-LIGHT, Robert again after I guess over 20 years.
Not the programmer myself I tip my hat to the geeks getting so much
wonderful sounds and sights out of so little bits.
Thanks for organizing a nostalgia feast and hope the rest of the party
is great for you too.
Cheers,
Eerk 'Eerk' Hofmeester
17:12
Hi guys,
What a nostalgia. All those memories coming back. Haven't been involved
with Atari stuff for 25 years. Awesome to see all guys guys still
having fun with all of this.
Bless you guyas,
Robert Heessels
STRIKE-a-LIGHT
17:00
Mad Max has a trip down memory lane with the help of Grazey trying to
prove Arkanoid crack intro (not Bad Cat) was the first digi-sample
track written.
LFEE/Armalyte
17:15 gwEm introduces Mad Max to the Maximiser player for the first
time whilst digging out his own player he had not used since 2000 on
Grazey's ST LFEE/Armalye
17:28
Can't get back to my table to continue coding, as the huge swarm of
fans around Jochen Hippel continues to grow. It's incredible to think
how the accomplishments of our collective youth are still respected and
revered even today. They were great accomplishments, but as Checkpoint
continue to remind us, don't worship the ashes - it's still good to see
people continue to discover new tricks and take the scene ever-forward
BBM/Demografica
19:04
We found a new girlfriend. Her name is Stacy. It's amazing to see you
again after all these years :) Whoever is your boyfriend, he did treat
you very well.
In deep appreciation, Chris of ULM - may the ZEN be with you, always.
19:07
Amazing to type these lines on an Atari Stacy, a computer that I
honestly only had seen on pictures at the time. It's amazing to be
here, my 3rd STNICCC, and seeing all these friends from the old days. I
am also amazed at seeing all these Atari XL/XEs, STs and Falcon 030s
(fully) alive and kicking, some with some nip/tuck stuff done too (SD
card readers, video cards, you name it).
I take the opportunity to thank Richard to make this happen for the 3rd
time!
Cheers - Klaus (Vantage / ST Connexion)
19:30
Hey ULM: Thanks for kicking the bass in my face today ;-).
Gerry (The Thalion Source)
19:39
Lots and lots of greets. My sleepless night is catching up all too
fast. Took some time out in the chillout tent. The only issue remaining
is freeing yourself from the sucker-like embrace of the comfy chairs.
"Nooo, not the comfy chairs!"
CiH.
19:50
This is Dan and RA of Paradox on the keyboard. It`s about 70 minutes to
the start of compo. The Paranoid is still busy fixing the last glitches
of our long awaited demo on the STE. We will not participate in the
compo because in the current state it wont run on the compo machine. We
consider the demo about 90% ready and expect to finish the beast in the
next weeks. We will include some kind of making of in the txt file.
Expect an interesting read as we started coding and painting around
2011 at outline in the Netherlands.
2015 turned out to be a more-atari-related year than expected. The
Paranoid took the role of whiplashing the rest of the team into
action.... And guess what - he is the one who is still busy by now.
Originally i (Dan) was not expected to attend STNICC 2015 due to family
obligations. In the end i talked myself out of it and was able to give
RA und The Paranoid a mild shocking moment. While typng i wear my brand
new Paradox-merchandise-jacket. I was super happy to receive my cosy
jacket today with the mail delivery. This makes Paradox the best
dressed sceners present, obviously.
A lucky surprise hit Paradox within the late production process: Zwecki
is still alive and kicking! He did the grafix for the middle part of
our demo. He did some outstanding and luckily different grafix to show
the inner part of the demo (a demo within a demo). 505 is currently not
at the party, which is kind of sad. He did a wonderful piece of music
that really contributes to the storytelling of the demo. Some of you
may be surprised to see paradox developing a demo with a story. Our
demo tells the story of Lucy and Cookie. The story is based in a future
Berlin city. Our heroes face the evil cybernetics cooperation that
takes over goverment, communication and the internet in 2035. You will
see what turns out to be the final solution of our story. :)
20:15
Daryl was here
20:16
This is Mad Max on the keyboard. WHAT A GREAT EVENT! :)
20:17
This is the awesomest party ever. Well really, I (Gunstick) have not
been to so many parties. Mainly to all STNICCCs, which is easy because
there are not so many. On the other side this is the best occasion to
meet all the old school ST heroes. Really not to be missed by anyone
into the ST demo scene. I brought my first ever ST in the hope to get
it repaired. So far I got a shortly flashing desktop, so it's still a
little alive. Everybody is heavily coding on their demos or getting
along with exchanging news from the last 15 years. Such frindly
atmosphere!
Gunstick/ULM
20:25
Dbug^Defence-Force on the keyboard :)
It's so cool to see again that many people after all these years, and
apparently there's going to be quite some many prods as well! The more
the merrier.
Looking forward to see what we all can do at our old age... see you
again in 20 years I guess?
(PS: This Stacy is so cool!)
20:30
Great to meet so many people and friends at this fantastic event.
Many thanks to Richard for making this happen!
The ST is dead. Long life the ST!
See you all in 25 years.
Oxygene / The Lost Boys
20:39
Well good so far. Once again at the pleasure of meeting some legendary
old school folk! Bumped into Rob Hubbard on arrival and myself Rob and
Cal soon descended into indecipherable Hull speak, or rather 'ull
speak. Quick photo then onwards upstairs to monst work. Later bopped to
defjam's chip medley.... then Mr Max. We first met at STNICCC2K when I
showed him and early version of Ultimate Muzak Demo 8730, 15 years
later and jochen once again loads up his TFMX-MM editor on my machine
and gives the new scene an example of live composing. Nice to see
Jochen conversing with the new school musicians - gwEm and DMA-SC with
maxYMiser in the spot light. A great discussion followed in the
intracacies of ST chip music techiques.
I had a deep converation with Jochen about the progression of his chip
driver, one question I'd forgotten to ask him at STNICCC2K was which
tune was the first to feature digi drums, the general school of thought
was it was from the game Bad Cat. However recently I ripped the chip
music from an early TEX crack of Arkanoid, this featured what sounded
like a digi drum, Mad Max was intrigued - on the face of it, it looks
liked I'm right, but hopefully I will get this confirmed if I remain
sober enough after the demo compos... Ok people overlooking me......
time for the compos!
Grazey/PHF - Showaddywaddy/D-Bug
Just got a lecture from Mr Bee om his 3D bootsector demo he made for
STNICCC 2015: A rotating cube with the OVR logo with some nice coding
ideas in there. The coordinate encoding only takes 4 bites per vertex.
It also checks for a 68030 processor and enables the code cache for
improved performance. After Mr Bee's lecture I got into a friendly
argument on how to draw polygon lines properly. Unfortunately, I don't
remember why I did them the way I explained. It had something to do
with 'correct' enclosings or whatever. Anyway, I'm eager to see the
demo compos! I'm starting to feel the itch and scratch it with some
Atari St Code - who knows!
Rapido/Synergy
I just discovered the Motorola, the manufacturer of the 68000 MCU has
become Freescale, which was bought by NXP, and is hence now a Duch
company (I work for). Great guys to work with. Live proceeds in circles
sometimes. Kybernetez - TGE
Hi D-Force again here, this time it's already to go.
Have had lots of FUN here and Until next time?
Made some new friends even and some lots of legends.
Havoc was running Havoc and I just handed him some help.
The Next Party will bee even more awesome.
Played with the new Synthesizer from Earx and it sounds soo nice!
Trying to get my Falcon fixed, didn't worked out :(
Signing off.. D-Force
00:29 Compos have finished. We have seen very, very good stuff, coming
from legends of the Atari scene, from the current scene and from people
who literally hadn't released anything before STNICCC 2015. This was a
great feeling, and I'm glad I could be here to see this ! Thanks to all
competitors for having given us so much fun and shown it was still
possible to push our beloved machines beyond even further limits. I
love you /3
Zerkman/Sector One
Been there, watched that ;) All the prods were really great, I hope
they will be released soon.
AdamK/Lamers
00:44 It has been a great night here at stniccc 2015 with hours of
entertainment from the compos. I wish all atariparties would have this
many entries in the compos. baggio / evo
01:47 So, this was actually great! Jacky/ACF on the keys. Arrived very
late on the 2nd day, but anyways... I had lots of things to do for my
own company, so I am glad I finally had the time to participate at all.
Competitions are over and prices are given. Most people going to bed or
leaving to their hotels (like myself soon). Nice to see the old scene
again! And yes, I am still watching all new demos released - even
though it's on YouTube. So, shoutouts to a few people I met here:
Daryl, LSL, Agent -t-, Tyrem, Oxygene, tIn, Samurai, etc. And groups
like NoExtra, HMD, Oxygene, OVL, Checkpoint, etc. Thanks to Richard for
organising it again and looking forward to the next STNICCC! I am
really thinking of releasing unfinished stuff then. ;-) Really sad,
that I hadn't the time to speak to more guys here. Maybe, next time?
Laterz, Jacky/ACF Design Team
02:31
Well, the obviously climactic day has drawn to an end, and I am about
to hit the hay. I am told that I need to work on what Robb called "your
Los Angeles TV American accent", which I suppose will be my noble quest
to complete before STNICCC 2040.
I have had countless experiences that need accounting, however right
now I am off and I hope I will have some more to write tomorrow. Well,
I guess I mean later today.
Cronos
3:00?
earx on the keys.. great party. many quality releases yesterday
evening. an atari party is a crazy place. in the end i think dforce's
falcon did get fixed after all.
3:15
I'm the last man standing....it's Agent -t- on the keys... it's relly
late, the AVENA guys sleeping since hours, but I had so much fun with
my new frensch frinds here. And with JAcky, yes ... we meet since
uncountable years here at STniccc. And is was a pleasure. what can I
say, that whole thing was a great pleasure. Rebooting Cream , making
pixelgrafik after 10 yerars break, making a STE Demo and hanging with
TAO, ULTRA and Abyss at the Cream HQ last weekend. I had so much fun.
And what I didn't expect , I was complete schocked about the stuff I
saw on the democompetition... really wasn't prepared to see ST demos
again, and be complete burned. Greetings to all dudes who keep this
thing alive. At least I just can hope, we are back and having another
decade of democoding on the horizon. c ya all on the next session :)
3:56
Good night... Jacky is leaving the place. L8erz!
3:57
I had a blast at STNICCC2015. insane of tscc
4h11
Alonetrio also knows as NoNameNo AKA Antoine Santo Was here and is
going to bed... I hope to catch all of you here tomorrow!!!!
4h15
Jace, you know the guy from "Reunion Island". I'm really happy to be
here at STNICCC. Too much I think, I'm still not in my "bed". Too much
fun, too much people to meet, even so late. Hope to see more of you
tomorow, before quiting.
8:55
People sleeping. An alarm goes of, no-one responding. Tomorrow most
people will go back to work and "normal" live will continue asif
nothing ever happend. In just over two weeks time this seat will be
taken by a student unaware of everything that happend here, and unaware
of everything that has ever happend leading to this special event. It's
allways a pleasure to be among people who probably have a similar
mindset when they hear the words "cuddely", grotesque or spoon.
10:15
Fried of avena here. I am blow away. I am so glad to be here, so glad
that Richard went through all the trouble to organize a party for a
scene scattered so wide and far. Thanks Richard, we are in your debt. I
have met all the people who shaped my career. who made me wonder what
the hell was wrong with my monitor, when the tex intro did not have a
lower border. The great demos of old, inspiring me to start my own path
- late maybe for the scene, but in retrospect our atari megademo of 92
is now old school, and the time spent in the falcon scene that ermerged
then where we played our small part.
The people here are great. the demos yersterday were stunning, oxygene
and sync showed that there is really no reason at all to stop pushing
the envelope on the st. So now soon we go home, but I am so happy that
I made the trip. And whoa - I got to shake the hand of Rob Hubbard and
hear some of music history told by the man himself. Awesome. I hope to
see the familiar faces again somewhere some time. Oh and a big thanks
must also go to Bartek for his heroic work in restoring so much of the
scene hardware to working condition. You rock.
10:31
-Es- of TEX: What a great event - my mind is buzzing with the
awesomeness of yesterday's productions. And a severe lack of sleep. So
all is as it should be. My only wish to the awesome "new" demo groups
out there: Let there be more glass bubbles! ;-)
10:37
1NG: Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooots of fun yesterday! I
definatly need some time to fully realize this cool event. Nice people
doing Atari stuff in various kinds. This (and the amounts of vanilla
fla I ate) makes it one more unforgettable experience in my life. Hope
to see some people soon again!
11:05
Just came back to say bye. See you all next time! Jacky/ACF Design
Team.
11:18
The halls are very empty - either due to sceners leaving or having a
well deserved lie-in this morning. There might be some who are on the
guided tour of Gouda too. I got here too late to join that, but I've
seen a lot of Gouda already as I got here on Thursday afternoon.
Time to wander through the halls and see who else is here and, more
importantly, actually awake.
Mug UK (or 'mug-ukk') as some people initially called me :)
11:35
And here I was thinking that it was "Mug Uck". Well hey.
There is a faint start of an exodus.
Cronos
11:20 - Sammy Joe
25 Years years ago we were here in Holland for the first time. Now, the
thrid STNICCC is pretty much getting to the end. It was an amazing
time, I am so glad I came to see all the guys from my past.
The most questions I was asked while staying at the STNICCC:
1) When and why did u cut your hair short?
- my grandmother visited me in the UK, and youknow how pestering
they can be. Hairs off.
2) Why dont you do any more stuf on the ST? When did u stop?
- 1992 - I traded my Atari and all my discs for my first motorbike.
3) How did the Lost Boys start?
When I moved to London from Germany, my parents invited all the
neighbours in the road to our new home. Tim-Manikin and David-Spaz
were amongst them. So, in the end, hadnt my parents not invited
the nieghbours, the Lost Boys would propably never existed.
4) Do u still live in London?
- No, I live in a small town near Ludwigsburg - Hemmingen - Germany.
25 five years later I attend the STNICCC, this time with my son and
wife. Hmmm, strange enough, my son is now the crazy one, listening to
metal, longish hair..... He ist the same age as I was in 1990.
Its so great so see all the people again after so many years. Seeing
the still active scene and what the guys still program on the ST. Just
amazing.
And I want to thank the people putting the Lost Boys stuff in Youtube
and on the homepages, I love looking at our old stuff and the demos of
the others.
Another big THANKS goes to CHRIS HOLLAND for having kept Maggie alive
for so long!!
Now its time to say to good-bye - packing and heading back home. Hoping
and looking forward to the STNICCC XXXX
Yours Sammy Joe of The Lost Boys aka Michael Schuessler
P.S. Sleep all day, Party all night, never grow old, never die.
P.S.S. It was so nice seeing the other Lost Boys again after 25
years. Re-Union. One might say, the Found Boys.
Thank you, and see ya all!
12:05
CiH logs on briefly, admin update and backup needed. We're over 31k of
text, which is cool. Possibly 20k of that just added by Sammy Joe
above. I'm off to lunch but will come back here slightly later on.
12:10 Baggio on the keys again after some much needed rest. This has
been a great party and i hope i will be able to attend another one in
about 15 years. Inbetween that i am hoping for Jace/HMD to arrange a
party at reunion island. It would be awesome. #atari4life
12:16 Wingleader/Synergy on this good old stacy2 never seen this Atari
'laptop' before in my life. Even after 15 years not been active on my
Atari and been to Atari party's (STNICCC 2000 was the real last time i
attended a real Atari party) i still enjoy the old atmosphere. Talked
to a lot of old Dutch sceners (MR NI! and Inshallah) but also had some
breakfast with Omega and listened to the overscan/sync scrolling
presentation of SYNC. Got excited by the demo's that where shown last
night. And even had a laugh at my old code and first compact disks from
1989 and today we are trying to make a scsi tape streamer work to be
able to read some old tapes. So much memories so much years have flown
by.
Signing off got something to eat,
Wingleader
12:30
Being old and staying up well past bedtime meant I spent some quality
time in my hotel bed this morning. Then made a beeline for the
Koffiefabriek where I continued to wake up with strong coffee and a
slab of Dutch apple pie. This has been an amazing experience so far
with so many blasts from the past my head is spinning. Seeing the old
demos, the Atari ST itself, a computer I spent so many hours in front
of peering at 68000 assembly brought back floods of memories. New
memories were made as well, strolling through Gouda's charming city
center, eating cheese and stroopwafels and going on an epic restaurant
hunt last night still stay with me for a long time I am sure.
The competitions last night were great, impressive stuff is being done
by people and it was fun to be on the jury. Congratulations to all the
winners and may your STs run smooth and proper for many years to come!
I'm off to Amsterdam soon, meeting up with my family who are currently
on a plane from Stockholm. This will be another goodbye to the still
thriving ST scene, although I will likely to fire up an emulator and
check out some more demos in the days to come. I think I need to
introduce my 12 year old son to what his dad used to do more than 25
years ago...
Over and out.
Stefan
with all the guys around.
12.54
This realtime is turning into a precious record of the party as it
happened. I'm pleased with the performance of this STacey, which has
sat there uncomplaining over the whole three days. It seems that the
idea of people using this machine was a welcome novelty. So I'd judge
the realtime article to be a roaring success.
As for events during the evening and after the party, my personal
highlights are as follows:
1. Doug Little's awesome procedural feast of unexpanded Falcon feats.
Incidentally, I learned over breakfast with Daniel Hedberg that we
missed out on a demo from New Beat Developments, as work was started
but a new child arrived to occupy the time instead! Still, something
will come out of that one day.
2. The return of Cream, even if it wasn't the legendarily long awaited
'Heftig' demo.
3. The return of Oxygene in a really really special productions that
contains the best of oldschool values. I'll be one of the first
shouting for a hard disk file version please!
4. I'm not going to leave out Checkpoint, a bit rough around the edges
but a couple of really great screens.
5. Paradox managed to include storytelling in their new demo,
'SaboTage'.
In general, the entries just kept on coming and coming. It's as if the
oldschool scene in particular had saved up all their stuff over the
last 15 years.
After the prizegiving ceremony, we got back to a peaceful hotel. My
room had lost the comatose ex-room-mate. A peaceful crashing onto the
pillows followed.
This morning, there was a sort of sequel to the events of the Friday
night. Bod was in the hotel reception, had recovered to some extent,
and was very apologetic. It also appeared that he may have trouble in
paying for his room and the bottle of whisky (70-80 EUR!) that he
'purchased' from the hotel. I could see what was coming, so took a deep
breath and walked the hell out. By the time I let that breath out, I
was in the town square!
Anyway, back at the party place with a heavy sense of farewells and
departures.
CiH.
1:07pm
Things are indeed slowly but surely coming to an end here, but what an
incredible couple of days! So good to see all these people from the
good old days, with quite a good representation by those who were
present the first time around in 1990 in Oss!
I have been in touch practically live with some of my friends from ST
Connexion, and boy are they disappointed that they were not be able to
join.
I'd like to thank Richard for 1. actually following up on his promise
to organize this event and 2.for doing such an excellent job on
everything from the location to the available catering and 3. for
convincing legends such as Rob Hubbard and Pete Lyon to come.
Unbelievable!
Here's to another STNICCC in the future (?) And let's make sure we stay
in touch, because I think we have proven that the ST allowed us to
meet, but that our friendships are now deep and go beyond this amazing
machine.
All the best.
Klaus (Vantage / ST Connexion)
13:15
The last 2 days have been kind of spectacular. Its been 20+ years since
I last saw many of these people. I came from Los Angeles to be here and
it has been so worth the trip. I haven't made any demos since Ooh
Crikey Wot a Scorcher about 23 years ago. It was a special time and I
managed to make a great career in video games from the experience that
I got finishing Demo screens.
I also made a bunch of friendships that have survived the test of time
better than almost any others and for that I am extremely thankful.
Gouda has turned out to be a wonderful place, its been nice to get a
taste of Europe just before xmas for the first time in many years.
Thankyou Richard for organizing this, its been lovely and I appreciate
being invited and all the work you put into getting this done.
Thx to everyone who came, I will be remembering this for years.
Tim Moss / Manikin / The Lost Boys
Hi everyone!
Leonard/OXYGENE on the keybard. We are more than proud to be part of
that amazing party! so strange to be there and see so many Atar
legends! We released the We Were @ demo and won the first place, what a
great moment for atari people like us.
Thanks again to Richard to organize such an event ATARI and demo coding
really change my life direction. I'm really proud to be part of the
Atari demo scene
Arnaud Carre / Leonard / Oxygene
Bonjour tout le monde !
Atari scene is a very important part of me. So i am so grateful to
you all for teaching me so many things: asm code, pixels graphics,
and many more, like friendship!
Typing this text per example on a ST reminds me also the first article
i made for the first french magazine about videogames. Without you, my
life won't be the same.
I would like to express my deepest thanks to everyone.
MERCI BEAUCOUP !
Douglas Alves / Skaven / Invisibles+Masters
Hello all,
I want to thank Richard for organising this fantastic event. I was very
nice meeting all people who I only knew as names and it is great to see
them in person.
I'm amazed that there still is so many activity on the Atari ST. The
number competition entries far exeeded my expectations. And the quality
was very high. I never expected the things that were shown was posible
on the humble Atari ST. Thank to all for this amzing weekend. See you
at the next STNICCC :-)
Robert / The Atari Boys
Ah that odd moment when you have to say goodbye to everybody, you are
all sad and yet you need to write some words into the realtime blog
just to leave your tiny track in the history of humanity (and more
importantly, in the history of Atari). So what to say? Thank you all
for those great times, those great demos and more than all that
fantastic positive energy. I am now 41, I started with my Atari around
the age of 14, and hopefully I will still use it for many years to
come. I never look back towards the past just to remember with
nostalgia those cherished moments, I look into the past to learn and
bring back nowadays and for the future this positive energy and some of
the great coding techniques onto modern technology. This is what drives
me, and today that a lot of us are now brigning this spirit into many
diverses companies. Anyway. Time to go, there is a huge queue of people
queuing behind me. New Beats will kill me. See you all at the next
STNICCC where hopefully I will have finally released my new program.
Splash / Sector One
yeah this was a great party, and i was very pleased to breath it again.
After 2 night sleeping on the ground i be back in time. see you all in
not just in 15 years again.
Thyroxin of Avena
Atari RuleZZZ
14:28
Wow! What a party! How fun it has been to visit with all the people
from the Atari scene and to get to know some of the people starting it
all. The number and quality of contributions to the competitions were
amazing. Did not expect that! I had planned to release something at
this party but at the beginning of the year it was clear that I would
have another child, and I kind of gave up the idea of even being able
to come here. Things turned out different, I did have another child,
but it wasn't enough to stop me from coming here. Thank you Erika for
letting me go! :-) Lots of people standing in line too give their
contribution to this real-time Maggie article so I better quit and let
the others have a shot but before that I would like to thank Richard
for organizing this fantastic party! It met and exceeded all my
expectations. THANK YOU!
Daniel of New Beat
14.40
Amazing! Had a great time here in Gouda. Meeting all the nice people
here made it clear why i chose the Atari scene in the first place. Im
really going to remember the compo, two hours of new releases made it
feel like 1991 all over again. I would like to thank Richard for making
all this happen and my family for letting me go for the weekend. :-)
See you at Sommarhack if youre going.
Anders of New Beat
14:41
More and more people are leaving... I had a great time at STNICCC 2015
and would like to thank Richard for inviting me to the event. My thanks
also goes to all guys I met here and talked to. Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year!
Gerry (The Thalion Source)
14:47
Troed of SYNC here, just having come back from all the discussions that
happened after my presentation on the latest overscan and sync
scrolling discoveries. Fantastic audience, and I got to meet a few of
the key people involved in the creation of this fantastic part of the
ST lore. Ilja / L16 solved the mystery of how he came up with the
perfect fullscreen scanline stabilizer by explaining it was pure brute
force, trials and luck. I leave STNICCC with a lot more knowledge, pure
joy, and an enormous feeling of accomplishment having done something I
never managed to do in the good old days. Release a demo on time.
Troed / SYNC
14:50
Redhead of SYNC here. Massively impressed of what I have seen during
these days and how people in the scene has relentlessly kept pushing
the limits of the Atari ST since I left the scene a long time ago. Very
pleased to meet old friends as well as new ones both from the old scene
and people that came along after my time. Got quite inspired to play
around with the old hardware again and immediately got around to
counting clock cycles...
Redhead / SYNC
15:03
Its BoNuS of DBA/FUN finally having a go at this realtime article :)
Man, these have been a good few day back on the Atari again, I almost
fogot what fun we had with it. Thanks Richard for another really great
party, wouldn't have missed it for the world ! Shame I couldn't show
my new game on the big screen during the compo since it isn't a real
demo. But okay, I'll release a demo version fur sure so you can try it.
Otherwise I could always release at at the next STNICCC party ;)
Was really nice to see old friends again at the party, some really nice
demo's and musics at the party released. So Atari is still fighting
strong... Got to go now, other want to do their bit.
C'ya around !!!!
3.11pm
Just to say good bye to all of you: I have secured a seat in a car
leaving for the Amsterdam-Schipol at 4pm - thanks Mr. Bee! My flight
back to Copenhagen is at 8.15pm, so no stress.
My friends from ST Connexion have been kept informed practically live
of everything and I can tell you that they are even more sad that they
were not able to join. I can't wait to tell Sengan (Alien) about the
lovely feedback given by Troed on his work on our Punish Your Machine
screen this morning.
Seeing all these friends from the past has been amazing. You all take
good care of yourselves, and on behalf of all ST Connexion members, I
wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year 2016. Oh, and thank you
Jack Tramiel, Shiraz Shivji & Co for having created this wonderful
machine and changed our lives.
Klaus (Vantage / ST Connexion)
3.27pm
I was very happy to come to an STNICC convention for the first time
after all these years... I am back on the ST after 18 years of absence.
So I was very happy so meet again and discuss with great people from
the scene who got older like me ;)
Also impressed by all the good work that has been produced for the
convention and to see that a lot of new tricks have been experimented
during these 18 years...
I wish a merry Christmas to all ST demosceners and thanks the
organizers for this great convention.
Jerome (Metal Ages - Cybernetics)
3.34pm
I had a wonderful time here. Marvelous to meet all those oldschoolers
and some of my sceme heroes. Hippel and Hubbard are really friendly
people, who also steel understand than some persons are still
interested in doing things on ST. Also great to my all the long time
friends and also some recent new or back comers.
Competitions have also been super interesting, wonderful show. So
thanks to Richard and all other organisers for this amazing histrorical
event.
Dma-Sc
15:42pm
It was asome to meet all the atari st scene people once again after all
those years. Organization and productions showed were brillant! Hope to
meet you again on the next party, maybe Sillyventure 2016 or some
other?
Artur Karwatka / Vat / Luzak Team
15:47
It's been a while since I used my Atari, and honestly I didn't expect
much by coming here - all I wanted was to meet old friends and have
some laughs. What I've seen is mindblowing - a real, living scene
dedicated to computer produced 30 years ago, pushing it even further to
its limits. I'm so happy I could spend few days among the smartest and
most creative human beings I know, thank you guys. And extra thanks to
Richard for organising this event. Keep on rocking! And come to
Sillyventure in 2016. :-)
Maciej Matysiak
15:54
What an amazing time I had, first of all I want to thanks Richard for
organizing this event. It has been great to spend time with people that
became friends that I hadn't seen for such a long time. Richard asked
me to be part of the jury, he made me a great favour and it was a
honour for me to accept. I have been amazed to see that there was so
many entries for the competition. Judging was hard especially between
the different criteria: technical, design, machine constraints and so
on.
Time flies and it has been difficult to find time to write in this real
time article, as I was busy to discuss with people, but now that people
are heading off, and there is a queue waiting to write! I can't believe
that our last production was 22 years ago! And ever more that people
cary on with some passion. Presentation of Troed from Sync is great
example. I hope to be able to keep in touch with some of you. I would
like to write more but it is time to go.
Thanks everybody for the great time.
Patrick Bricout aka Mr Bee from The Overlanders
16:07
I had such a wonderful time meeting again with old friends from the old
days, as well as newer teams still keeping the flame alive! Needless to
say, meeting with living legends such as Rob Hubbard and Peter Lyon was
also fantastic.
The demo competition was awesome, seeing how people keep pushing the
envelope, sharing their passion with everybody... I felt just the same
as when I was a still a teenager watching the latest productions from
our masters at the time, The Union and others legends.
My sincere congratulations to all the people who spent the time and
passion to make and show their productions for this convention, and I
am sincerely feeling grateful for Richard organizing this wonderful
event, reuniting such great people and giving us a so great time
reuniting all together. Thanks you Richard!! And we sincerely hope for
the next convention, secretely expecting that it will be not too far in
the future ;).
David Mistouflet aka Dim from The Overlanders
16:19 Wingleader, So the party is ending we've just packed our stuff in
the car and speaking to old and new friends and had lot's fun of
watching the old stuff. Trying old scsi dat tapes with a new/used
tapestreamer supplied by Tos-crew and ruined all my old tapes ;-( but
it gave some room so that i don't have to bring them home. Hopefully we
will see eachother in 5 years in stead of 15 of 25 @richard ;-). Two or
three days before it starts it sounds thats a lot of time untill you
are there than time flies and before you know you can pickup the
goodybag and drive back home ;-(.
To all who attended the STNICCC 2015 enjoy your lives, enjoy the time
you have with your loved ones before you now live takes a strange turn.
16:25 BoNuS again, just to say packed the car and all my stuff. Just
back on the keys to say we needs this event again in 5 years from now
:) Sad its over already, would have liked a day more on the Atari with
friends. Atari people are a good bunch to have around and be around...
16:34 Can it be? Will this real-time artcle actually have some content
from the most prolific real-time article blatherer this side of the
digital divide? Yes, yes it will! This is TNS from AEnigmatica and The
Quartermass Experiment. I have been reliably informed that this RTA is
not 'valid' without my input. Well, here it is.
And what a rush it is! Meeting people after 25 years who I thought
probably dead or at least severely inconvenienced. Writing on a museum
piece of a Stacy and actually doing not much more than relaxing in the
Zen tent.
I'm sadly also leaving very soon. It's been a blast meeting people
again and for the first time. My main take-aways from this glorious
convention: Music to meditate by and a brilliant Christmas CD. As you
do.
People, stay safe and have a good trip back home. I know I will. Oh,
and apologies again for the lack of Brainwalk II. It will come at some
point, I promise!
16:45 What a fantastic weekend with fellow Atari enthusiasts and
sceners! The time has come where everyone is packing up and ready to
go. Let's hope we don't have to wait too long for the next party. A
fantastically organised event by Chronos with some great demos, music
and graphics. Especially enjoyed Oxygene's demo and gwEn's music. It
was lovely to meet some people I've known for many years, known about
for many years, and innovators of their time.
A chip music masterclass has been one of the highlights of the event
for me, listening and watching Jochen Hippel demonstrate his tracker,
while DMA-SC and gwEn watched with interest. It was also a special
experience watching and listening to gwEn demonstrate his great
maxYMiser tracker. I would not of believed in my wildest dreams I
would be sitting next to such guys watching what they were doing - true
masters.
Time to sign off now, until next time. Back to reality, and Christmas
2015!
Stay Atari!!
/|\ Tronic of Effect /|\
16:54 : Time to leave ... It was a really great convention and It's a
big pleasure to be here. It was so cool and fun. It was a really nice
to meet again Atari sceners especially some that I seen last time more
than 20 years ago. Thanks to everybody to be so cool and a really big
hup to Cronos to have organized this huge convention.
Special message to Cronos, please don't wait 15 years to organize the
next STNICCC ;)
Atari for life !!!
Megadeth from The Pendragons / Prism
17:06: All good things must come to an end unfortunately. What can i
say that hasn't been said before? It was a great party and i would have
never expected to meet the very people who got me started in doing
demos and graphics. Meeting Pete Lyon was a blast since he's one of the
guy whose artwork inspired me back in the days. Sometimes you put a lot
of expectations in people and you can end up sorely disappointed. It
hasn't been the case here, Pete is one of the most humble and talented
artist i've had the privilege to meet. And the same can be said of all
the legends i've met here.
Thanks to the scene for having been such an inspiration and thanks a
lot to the man, Richard Karsmakers, for having pulled out such a great
party.
Mic/Dune signing off
17:18 Finally I had some time to write something in the realtime
article and....it will be the last one as well unfortunately. :-(
Just because the party has almost come to an end.
I was quite blown away by meeting up all these people from the past,
seeing some great demo's and hearing some great musix as well.
Next time however I will be sleeping in a hotel instead of oldskool
style on a small matras with some guys snoring and farting in my
surroundings...oh man, that was quite awfull...
Anyways...thank you to all you guys for the great happening and
especially to Richard (Crono) for organizing such a great event!!!
Hope to see you at the next event...where and whenever that may be! ;-)
Hotmailer (aka The Hardware Underground) signing off!!
Chuck/Dune
Thanks for this good party
Time to quit with my head full of good souvenirs ...
See u dudes
17:36
This is the first time I've got on here in ages. There's been a
constant queue of people saying goodbye to the party in realtime form.
The last admin update, about an hour or so ago, contained nearly 40-50k
of text. There will be more to add shortly. I'm not sure what time this
is going to close down, but we're out of here right at the end of the
party, which is around 20:30 hours. I guess a lot will depend on when
Mr Cronos decides to have his last words on here.
As for the party, it has been another of the legends, but possibly this
time, the description carries a little more weight than usual. There is
going to be a first person viewpoint report from myself in Maggie, as
well as this realtime. But it is fair to say that this will be one of
the epic realtimes of all time when it is done.
CiH.
17:42 Well, I couldn't leave just a couple of words on this article, so
I'm (Hotmailer) back for this moment to take the opportunity to type
some more things about the thing I did see and hear.
It was great to meet up with people from the past, but also great to
speak with such great people as Rob Hubbard and other people from the
scene. Well Richard and Ruth are standing nearby be so I will wrap
things up so that they can write something as well.
Bye everyone! So long and thanks for all the fish!!!!
Hotmailer (aka the Hardware Underground) signing off.....
Cronos' wife (Ruth) here. I had a lot of fum meeting everyone.
Especially talking different languages and seeing my bubby in his
element. Enjoyed the cill zone, the tea and especially the company.
Hope to see you all in 2040.
17:57 Just trying to describe the last few days and can't come up with
proper words. Let's just say it was a complete blast! Meeting alot of
theold people, even some German Alliance fellows - I really wouldn't
have thought to be meeting people from so far back. Oldschool and
Oldschoolest. Having seen things in the compo that simply aren't
possible did it's part to to classify this party as unreal. We have to
convince Cronos to do another one!
Bye
tIn/newline
18:03
The day is slowly crawling to a close. About 20-30 people remain (the
true hard core, I guess). Many partings, a lot of sweet sorrow.
Facebook is filling with testimonies, selfies and ussies. Warm feeling.
Oh, and hunger, yes. Hunger.
Cronos
18:07
My chance to become immortal as Richard said.
This time I made it to STNICC.
And it was worth it for the Goodie bag alone!
Thanks Richard!
NAN / INVALID
18:15
So, this was STNICCC (almost). It was a once in a lifetime experience
and definetly not your average demo party. A lot of entries in the
competitions, a lot of nice people of the new school, a lot of nice
people of the old school. So manz thanks to Richard for making this
happen.
The Paranoid / Paradox
19:02
Time is relative. So is passion. There are a few, who transcend
boundaries and create a timeless network. We are lucky to have such a
unique, friendly, loyal and awesome HUB. Thank you, Richard and Ruth!
Namaste
.Chris of ULM
20:00 illegal of replicants : what a bloody qwerty keyboard. i leave
stniccc now. i am so glad to have met friends and all of the good old
scene. id love this would happen again soon. get in touch with me. and
remember what is good for you is to stay as young as you are and of
course hack the absurdity om this planet. cheers, kiss, friendship to
you all including coders, swappers, crackers, and lamers... ;)
see ya...
19:24
The end is getting nigher. The 'fat lady' singing to close down this
epically proportioned realtime article will be Richard K, Mr Cronos
himself.
The last few people are knocking down the tents, so to speak.
So it's goodbye from me, and see you at another party soon(ish).
Tata for now.
CiH..
19:32
Anxious is the proper word for how I feel now I have had bestowed upon
my tired shoulders the honour of wrapping up the Real Time Article.
There must be something literary or historical happening, or both, or
quite possibly neither. At any rate, the Convention has been rather a
resounding succes surrounded by general utterings in the vein of "yay"
or, indeed, "woohoo!".
I fear I might have said before that it was the best weekend of my
life, but I now have to conclude that this was no mere hyperbole or
other exaggeration. In fact it was and is true.
I am very happy, I am very content. I am also very beat so this was it.
Cronos
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Back to the Travelling.