STNICCC 25th Anniversary Realtime Article! 19.52hrs - 18.12.15 And the realtime article is now open!! Usual rules apply, ah, what the hell, you'll do as you please anyway! Well there is one thing. It applies to the organiser of this party, Mr Kronos himself. Any demi-holy spoutings of text will have to be certified by the pope, or Dali Lama (Jeff Minter). Any unholy ejaculations will not be permitted! CiH - So nearly time for dinner! 19.58hrs - 18 dec 2015 earx here. just arrived 2 hrs ago.. already filling up with all the familiar faces and some less familiar faces from before the time i was involved in the demo scene, real oldschool st guys. this stacy is really sweet. it seems to have mega st keyboard, which is all nice and clicky. rich seems to have borrowed it from the computer museum. good job. since this is an atari party i'll work a bit on my ST midi sequencer here. :) 20:59 - 18 dec The Frenchieshqve finally found the party place. Quite a bunch of us actually. Hate this qwerty keyboard. 21.19 - 18 12 15 An amazingly keen dinner followed my first log entry, along with the most amazing atmosphere of companionship and good cheer. I opted for seconds of both. There are some interesting releases due from some interesting people. I've been sworn to secrecy on one of these. I may reveal more later on. By the time the compo's have done, it's academic anyway. CiH Rainbow here, Felice's wife. I've been put up to this by CiH, who wants a random drunken text entry. Tough. I'm not drunk. Swapped my Acer laptop keyboard for a real old-skool reminder of what the keyboards were like when I was in secretarial school around a quarter of a century ago...eep. First time for this Stacy2 out of the UK I think but it seems to be holding up well. CiH got it configured rather well for the realtime stuffs so here we go ! Felice. 22:21 So it is about 15 years and 15 kilos on, and here I am sitting behind the Atari computer I'd always had on my wish list. With a keyboard that I really have to get used too. This day, in fact the past half year, has been an avalanche culminating in, well, a near-orgiastic old-skool Atari experience. And once I am getting used to the keyboard I am not too bad, although my English sentence structure goes down the drain. Back to about 12 hours ago, when I was sitting alone in this building doing little manual stuff to prepare for STNICCC. Now I am hearing chip music and there are people all over the place doing Atari-ey stuff. It is just about the same as years ago, but now we're older and have children and/or wives, or at least wish more frantically that we'd have them. I am more beat than I care to admit and tomorrow hasn't even happened yet. Tomorrow is going to be utterly, utterly, UTTERLY awesome. Back to others, I will be back somewhen. Cronos 22.38hrs Most expected people for Friday have arrived. In a shock repeat of events from 2000 (and 1990, according to the party organiser himself), the various nationalities and sub-strata of the Atari scene have split themselves off into different rooms. The Frenchies taking up a lot of space in bulk at the back of the school. It's happened here too. In our classroom of fun, the main companions are the cycling duo of PHF with gwEm and other related people. With a smattering of Earx and Paradox. The party is at a lull stage, where various options, including going out on the Xmassy lit Gouda old town are being considered. We'll see. CiH. Grazey here, gwEm just attempted to lift this stacy - struggle was the word saturday 1:00AM earx on the keys.. this party is sweet. dinner was a professional afair with a lot of space, in fact there's a great amount of space everywhere. the location is great. spoke to some more people, even joined the orgos for a bit of setting up of the beamer and screen. coded a bit on the atari st midi step sequencer.. all in all a great day. looking forward to tomorrow! hitting the hay oldschool style. sleeping right here in the building.. although, it's really quite luxurious compared to the gym halls of yore! 2:34 Mr.XY trying to type on an Atari Stacy. Never seen this machine working before. Unfortunately i get my Falcon not working correctly. But i"m in the mood to do some old school gfx. Maybe on my smartphone, or i'll go sleeping directly...crhhhh 08:18 The building is almost completely deserted. Darkness. Day two is about to start and I hope/think it will be corker! Cronos 10:00 I arrived at the location half an hour ago and was caught by surprise that most people are either still taking their breakfast or sleeping. Gerry 10:20 TLB has arrived! After a nice walk trhough the old town center and some good coffee at the 'Koffiefabriek' Tim (Manikin), David (Spaz) and myself (Digital Insanity) had a rather good reunion with the one and only Richard Karsmakers. Such nostalgia. It really has been 25 year... Stefan 10:28 Meeting people I only knew by nickname is a major dissapointment. They are just regular nice human beiings like the rest of us :) Reading all the scrolltexts when I was young made me believe they were all tough villans with eye-patches and tattoos everywhere! Slept well enough and took a shower.. TiNKer 10:47 Standard greeting:- "Did you sleep well?" Standard response:- "Yes, thank you!" My response:- "No, my room-mate turned out to be a raving alcoholic!" Short version (longer version will be in my party report) There seemed to be potential issues with Bod. It was the first time abroad and he was busy looking for sources of booze from the start. We got back to the hotel at midnight and he turned up in reception, having being picked up by the police. When asked about this, he said this happened quite often at home. A hotel purchased bottle of Jack Daniels made its way up to the room. And that was the end of any possible nights sleep. Several hours of teetering on the edge of a fight or flight response followed, whilst the noises from the drunken corner got progressively more alarming. Eventually, when morning appeared. He was told that his presence in the room was not required for the following evening. An attempt by Bod to book another room was only completed between the very patient receptionist and myself. At the time of departure from the hotel, he was still snoring on my bed, but had a new room and directions how to get there left for him. The walk in to the party place was a soothing contrast, with pleasant people doing normal things. I even managed a final bit of Xmas shopping from a dusty little shop by the canal, with interesting things. A coffee and cake break later, I'm ready to resume party doings. CiH - I'll laugh about this, when I've had a proper nights sleep. 11:13 Rainbow again. I didn't break Stacy-on-loan last time so I was allowed to have another go. Today, despite the fact that I have not had breakfast or lunch yet, I HAVE located the free tea and coffee. Together with free biscuits. The cake may be a lie, but the biscuits are definitely real, yummy cookies keeping body and soul on the same planet until lunchtime. Teapot on legs is enjoying the selection of fruit and herbal teas on offer - a welcome change from black tea and milk which I usually drink pint-wise back home. G33k out. 11:33 Baggio here. I adore this Atari Stacy. I wish it was mine. My own. My precious. The party have been great so far, alot of familiar faces and also alot of new ones...esp the older atari sceners i have never met before. Had a good time last night but because of a rather nasty cold i had to turn in early. Hope to produce something musicy today as inspiration seems to have finally found me. Seems like alot of people hit the drinking pretty hard last night and are having a bit of a sleep in today. Time to leave my precious behind and try to be creative for a bit. Cheerio! 12:20 Hi D-Force here. I've just gotten here an the first thing I'm looking at is this beautiful Stacy2, wow! That I've gotten the chance to ever meet this precious. And even get to touch it! :) Very very nice. Now to find the right people here, just met some of the 'old-guys' nice to see them again as if time has stood still. Old party feelings again. I'm wondering what and who else I get to see here. And more important for me is that I hope that Lotharek can fix my Falcon and if there is time left MegaSTe. Which I couldn't fix myself. See you in a bit. 12:30 Pete Lyon here, Well I arrived and stunned to meet lots of people who are very kind about my old work. Feel a bit of a fraud to be honest, as I have had little to do with games for a few years. Not used to being the centre of some interest. I'm promised lunch... so I need some tea. :::::Rob Hubbard here..... Met lots of really nice cool folks, and exchanged great stories and memories of the golden age of computers. Now for a bit of lunch!! here is Oscar. richard is my dad here it is fun here with the cabs. 12.58 Lunch is in the building. Grazey and Cal are comparing local knowledge with fellow Hull citizen Rob Hubbard. They all support the 'correct' football team, which is alright then. CiH. 13:04 Only being here for less than a day, but already had a lot of fun talking to old friends of the Indypendent. Some things are just timeless. Pictures for the compo are final. Now it's just to hope newscool style is liked by oldscool people. ;-) This afternoon we'll use the time to head over to Amsterdam and have a little culture tour. Just need to be back in time for the demoshow. Samurai 13:21 Rainbow back again. Slowly working through the pile of teas from the stash next door. Chocolate tea is a bit of a misnomer, but then I wasn't really expecting Dairy Milk in a teabag, was I? Lunch was a delicious mix of rolls, pancakes and soup, fortifying us all for a long afternoon, evening and night of coding, gaming, typing, writing, chatter and alcohol of various persuasions. Met Rob Hubbard and WizTom earlier - names and faces slowly falling into place. 14:00 It's been a long, long time since I've ever added anything to a real time article, and yet it's the first time I've ever used an Atari Stacy. My muscle memory is too used to a normal PC keyboard, that I keep pressing the ` key when I mean to press the Backspace. How did I type in so much drivel back in the dim and distant days, using a keyboard layout such as this? Mug UK 14.05 Slightly hungover gwEm/PHF 14:10 Beer run... Obiviously to observe only. Bumped in to gwEm on route. Maybe a new tune coming from him later. Maybe depends if he see's the delivery! LFEE/Armalyte 14:40 Beer run a success (Grazey a Tronic happy bunnies! :-) LFEE/Armalyte 14:43 This is Armin from TOS (German mag, folded 1993 or so). Still midly hammered. Not my fault. Daryl from TEX is to blame who decided not to leave my hotel room before 4am leaving trillions of empty beer cans behind. Waiting now for some chip tune show that is supposed to start at 3pm. Rob Hubbard anybody? 15:43 LSL is showing his Nintendo DS ST Chipsound DJ set. Pretty impressing stuff. Also, seeing TEX lurking and shouting anecdotes around their old songs is somewhat unreal. tIn/newline 15:47 It's really impressing to have all this people around here! Some of them I didn't meet for almost 15 years. Can't wait for the compos!! ;) Mr.Coke/absence./CPT 16:04 Its been a busy few hours, and a lot of catching up has been done. Some people have changed a lot in 25 years, some not so much. And it's been great to see the demos we worked on all that time ago still being loved. Some of the art I produced still looks great today. But I doubt I would be able to do it again. Spaz/The Lost Boys 16:10 Having a great time here, as expected. Nice to meet friends again and to meet people such as TLB, Mad Max, Rob Hubbard and so on. They were (and still are) legends when I was a teenager ;-) I can't wait for the compos tonight! Strider/MJJProd 16:17 This has been harvesting text nicely! So far this afternoon, a quiet one, apart from Defjam's ST Zik chiptune set, which was nicely noisy. Have been taking things as slowly as possible, bearing in mind earlier events (!) Of the non-prodigal son, no sign of a return so far. May it stay that way. The latest demo rumour to reach my ears, Cream (As in Agent T and that lot) have got something for the party. No, it's not the famously missing in action 'Heftig', but something completely different. But that is for laters, as they say. CiH. 16:43 Well I can't really believe how great this day has been. Twice I nearly cried when talking to Robb, recounting how my seriously sad existence of the late eighties started with a ritual of listening to Knucklebusters before school, and how happy I became when I listened to the TEX version of International Karate (in the Little Sound Demo unless I am sorely mistaken) and I realised there was a guy who could do good music on the ST. Seriously, I felt tears pricking at my right eye. Rob effing Hubbard actually in the same rooms as us, here, now, words of expletive power fail to describe the level of my chuffedness. And Pete Lyon, of course. The two of them ended up posing with each other and other attendants, patient like true professionals. But to emphasize the monumental momentaciousness of their presence would be to underplay the presence of all the other attendants, including former co- conspirator and ex-ex-ex-master editor of ST NEWS. Mr Stefan Posthuma. To mention anyone here is to sell short everyone else, so I am not going to. Anyway, when biting back a tear at lunch with my childhood heroes and my wife, I told her that this was probably one of the happiest moments of my life. I am choking up a bit now, recollecting the moment. Time for me to sign off, maybe until later. Cronos 17.10 Wow. Flashback after flashback here. Enjoyed meeting my former compagnon @ STRIKE-a-LIGHT, Robert again after I guess over 20 years. Not the programmer myself I tip my hat to the geeks getting so much wonderful sounds and sights out of so little bits. Thanks for organizing a nostalgia feast and hope the rest of the party is great for you too. Cheers, Eerk 'Eerk' Hofmeester 17:12 Hi guys, What a nostalgia. All those memories coming back. Haven't been involved with Atari stuff for 25 years. Awesome to see all guys guys still having fun with all of this. Bless you guyas, Robert Heessels STRIKE-a-LIGHT 17:00 Mad Max has a trip down memory lane with the help of Grazey trying to prove Arkanoid crack intro (not Bad Cat) was the first digi-sample track written. LFEE/Armalyte 17:15 gwEm introduces Mad Max to the Maximiser player for the first time whilst digging out his own player he had not used since 2000 on Grazey's ST LFEE/Armalye 17:28 Can't get back to my table to continue coding, as the huge swarm of fans around Jochen Hippel continues to grow. It's incredible to think how the accomplishments of our collective youth are still respected and revered even today. They were great accomplishments, but as Checkpoint continue to remind us, don't worship the ashes - it's still good to see people continue to discover new tricks and take the scene ever-forward BBM/Demografica 19:04 We found a new girlfriend. Her name is Stacy. It's amazing to see you again after all these years :) Whoever is your boyfriend, he did treat you very well. In deep appreciation, Chris of ULM - may the ZEN be with you, always. 19:07 Amazing to type these lines on an Atari Stacy, a computer that I honestly only had seen on pictures at the time. It's amazing to be here, my 3rd STNICCC, and seeing all these friends from the old days. I am also amazed at seeing all these Atari XL/XEs, STs and Falcon 030s (fully) alive and kicking, some with some nip/tuck stuff done too (SD card readers, video cards, you name it). I take the opportunity to thank Richard to make this happen for the 3rd time! Cheers - Klaus (Vantage / ST Connexion) 19:30 Hey ULM: Thanks for kicking the bass in my face today ;-). Gerry (The Thalion Source) 19:39 Lots and lots of greets. My sleepless night is catching up all too fast. Took some time out in the chillout tent. The only issue remaining is freeing yourself from the sucker-like embrace of the comfy chairs. "Nooo, not the comfy chairs!" CiH. 19:50 This is Dan and RA of Paradox on the keyboard. It`s about 70 minutes to the start of compo. The Paranoid is still busy fixing the last glitches of our long awaited demo on the STE. We will not participate in the compo because in the current state it wont run on the compo machine. We consider the demo about 90% ready and expect to finish the beast in the next weeks. We will include some kind of making of in the txt file. Expect an interesting read as we started coding and painting around 2011 at outline in the Netherlands. 2015 turned out to be a more-atari-related year than expected. The Paranoid took the role of whiplashing the rest of the team into action.... And guess what - he is the one who is still busy by now. Originally i (Dan) was not expected to attend STNICC 2015 due to family obligations. In the end i talked myself out of it and was able to give RA und The Paranoid a mild shocking moment. While typng i wear my brand new Paradox-merchandise-jacket. I was super happy to receive my cosy jacket today with the mail delivery. This makes Paradox the best dressed sceners present, obviously. A lucky surprise hit Paradox within the late production process: Zwecki is still alive and kicking! He did the grafix for the middle part of our demo. He did some outstanding and luckily different grafix to show the inner part of the demo (a demo within a demo). 505 is currently not at the party, which is kind of sad. He did a wonderful piece of music that really contributes to the storytelling of the demo. Some of you may be surprised to see paradox developing a demo with a story. Our demo tells the story of Lucy and Cookie. The story is based in a future Berlin city. Our heroes face the evil cybernetics cooperation that takes over goverment, communication and the internet in 2035. You will see what turns out to be the final solution of our story. :) 20:15 Daryl was here 20:16 This is Mad Max on the keyboard. WHAT A GREAT EVENT! :) 20:17 This is the awesomest party ever. Well really, I (Gunstick) have not been to so many parties. Mainly to all STNICCCs, which is easy because there are not so many. On the other side this is the best occasion to meet all the old school ST heroes. Really not to be missed by anyone into the ST demo scene. I brought my first ever ST in the hope to get it repaired. So far I got a shortly flashing desktop, so it's still a little alive. Everybody is heavily coding on their demos or getting along with exchanging news from the last 15 years. Such frindly atmosphere! Gunstick/ULM 20:25 Dbug^Defence-Force on the keyboard :) It's so cool to see again that many people after all these years, and apparently there's going to be quite some many prods as well! The more the merrier. Looking forward to see what we all can do at our old age... see you again in 20 years I guess? (PS: This Stacy is so cool!) 20:30 Great to meet so many people and friends at this fantastic event. Many thanks to Richard for making this happen! The ST is dead. Long life the ST! See you all in 25 years. Oxygene / The Lost Boys 20:39 Well good so far. Once again at the pleasure of meeting some legendary old school folk! Bumped into Rob Hubbard on arrival and myself Rob and Cal soon descended into indecipherable Hull speak, or rather 'ull speak. Quick photo then onwards upstairs to monst work. Later bopped to defjam's chip medley.... then Mr Max. We first met at STNICCC2K when I showed him and early version of Ultimate Muzak Demo 8730, 15 years later and jochen once again loads up his TFMX-MM editor on my machine and gives the new scene an example of live composing. Nice to see Jochen conversing with the new school musicians - gwEm and DMA-SC with maxYMiser in the spot light. A great discussion followed in the intracacies of ST chip music techiques. I had a deep converation with Jochen about the progression of his chip driver, one question I'd forgotten to ask him at STNICCC2K was which tune was the first to feature digi drums, the general school of thought was it was from the game Bad Cat. However recently I ripped the chip music from an early TEX crack of Arkanoid, this featured what sounded like a digi drum, Mad Max was intrigued - on the face of it, it looks liked I'm right, but hopefully I will get this confirmed if I remain sober enough after the demo compos... Ok people overlooking me...... time for the compos! Grazey/PHF - Showaddywaddy/D-Bug Just got a lecture from Mr Bee om his 3D bootsector demo he made for STNICCC 2015: A rotating cube with the OVR logo with some nice coding ideas in there. The coordinate encoding only takes 4 bites per vertex. It also checks for a 68030 processor and enables the code cache for improved performance. After Mr Bee's lecture I got into a friendly argument on how to draw polygon lines properly. Unfortunately, I don't remember why I did them the way I explained. It had something to do with 'correct' enclosings or whatever. Anyway, I'm eager to see the demo compos! I'm starting to feel the itch and scratch it with some Atari St Code - who knows! Rapido/Synergy I just discovered the Motorola, the manufacturer of the 68000 MCU has become Freescale, which was bought by NXP, and is hence now a Duch company (I work for). Great guys to work with. Live proceeds in circles sometimes. Kybernetez - TGE Hi D-Force again here, this time it's already to go. Have had lots of FUN here and Until next time? Made some new friends even and some lots of legends. Havoc was running Havoc and I just handed him some help. The Next Party will bee even more awesome. Played with the new Synthesizer from Earx and it sounds soo nice! Trying to get my Falcon fixed, didn't worked out :( Signing off.. D-Force 00:29 Compos have finished. We have seen very, very good stuff, coming from legends of the Atari scene, from the current scene and from people who literally hadn't released anything before STNICCC 2015. This was a great feeling, and I'm glad I could be here to see this ! Thanks to all competitors for having given us so much fun and shown it was still possible to push our beloved machines beyond even further limits. I love you /3 Zerkman/Sector One Been there, watched that ;) All the prods were really great, I hope they will be released soon. AdamK/Lamers 00:44 It has been a great night here at stniccc 2015 with hours of entertainment from the compos. I wish all atariparties would have this many entries in the compos. baggio / evo 01:47 So, this was actually great! Jacky/ACF on the keys. Arrived very late on the 2nd day, but anyways... I had lots of things to do for my own company, so I am glad I finally had the time to participate at all. Competitions are over and prices are given. Most people going to bed or leaving to their hotels (like myself soon). Nice to see the old scene again! And yes, I am still watching all new demos released - even though it's on YouTube. So, shoutouts to a few people I met here: Daryl, LSL, Agent -t-, Tyrem, Oxygene, tIn, Samurai, etc. And groups like NoExtra, HMD, Oxygene, OVL, Checkpoint, etc. Thanks to Richard for organising it again and looking forward to the next STNICCC! I am really thinking of releasing unfinished stuff then. ;-) Really sad, that I hadn't the time to speak to more guys here. Maybe, next time? Laterz, Jacky/ACF Design Team 02:31 Well, the obviously climactic day has drawn to an end, and I am about to hit the hay. I am told that I need to work on what Robb called "your Los Angeles TV American accent", which I suppose will be my noble quest to complete before STNICCC 2040. I have had countless experiences that need accounting, however right now I am off and I hope I will have some more to write tomorrow. Well, I guess I mean later today. Cronos 3:00? earx on the keys.. great party. many quality releases yesterday evening. an atari party is a crazy place. in the end i think dforce's falcon did get fixed after all. 3:15 I'm the last man standing....it's Agent -t- on the keys... it's relly late, the AVENA guys sleeping since hours, but I had so much fun with my new frensch frinds here. And with JAcky, yes ... we meet since uncountable years here at STniccc. And is was a pleasure. what can I say, that whole thing was a great pleasure. Rebooting Cream , making pixelgrafik after 10 yerars break, making a STE Demo and hanging with TAO, ULTRA and Abyss at the Cream HQ last weekend. I had so much fun. And what I didn't expect , I was complete schocked about the stuff I saw on the democompetition... really wasn't prepared to see ST demos again, and be complete burned. Greetings to all dudes who keep this thing alive. At least I just can hope, we are back and having another decade of democoding on the horizon. c ya all on the next session :) 3:56 Good night... Jacky is leaving the place. L8erz! 3:57 I had a blast at STNICCC2015. insane of tscc 4h11 Alonetrio also knows as NoNameNo AKA Antoine Santo Was here and is going to bed... I hope to catch all of you here tomorrow!!!! 4h15 Jace, you know the guy from "Reunion Island". I'm really happy to be here at STNICCC. Too much I think, I'm still not in my "bed". Too much fun, too much people to meet, even so late. Hope to see more of you tomorow, before quiting. 8:55 People sleeping. An alarm goes of, no-one responding. Tomorrow most people will go back to work and "normal" live will continue asif nothing ever happend. In just over two weeks time this seat will be taken by a student unaware of everything that happend here, and unaware of everything that has ever happend leading to this special event. It's allways a pleasure to be among people who probably have a similar mindset when they hear the words "cuddely", grotesque or spoon. 10:15 Fried of avena here. I am blow away. I am so glad to be here, so glad that Richard went through all the trouble to organize a party for a scene scattered so wide and far. Thanks Richard, we are in your debt. I have met all the people who shaped my career. who made me wonder what the hell was wrong with my monitor, when the tex intro did not have a lower border. The great demos of old, inspiring me to start my own path - late maybe for the scene, but in retrospect our atari megademo of 92 is now old school, and the time spent in the falcon scene that ermerged then where we played our small part. The people here are great. the demos yersterday were stunning, oxygene and sync showed that there is really no reason at all to stop pushing the envelope on the st. So now soon we go home, but I am so happy that I made the trip. And whoa - I got to shake the hand of Rob Hubbard and hear some of music history told by the man himself. Awesome. I hope to see the familiar faces again somewhere some time. Oh and a big thanks must also go to Bartek for his heroic work in restoring so much of the scene hardware to working condition. You rock. 10:31 -Es- of TEX: What a great event - my mind is buzzing with the awesomeness of yesterday's productions. And a severe lack of sleep. So all is as it should be. My only wish to the awesome "new" demo groups out there: Let there be more glass bubbles! ;-) 10:37 1NG: Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooots of fun yesterday! I definatly need some time to fully realize this cool event. Nice people doing Atari stuff in various kinds. This (and the amounts of vanilla fla I ate) makes it one more unforgettable experience in my life. Hope to see some people soon again! 11:05 Just came back to say bye. See you all next time! Jacky/ACF Design Team. 11:18 The halls are very empty - either due to sceners leaving or having a well deserved lie-in this morning. There might be some who are on the guided tour of Gouda too. I got here too late to join that, but I've seen a lot of Gouda already as I got here on Thursday afternoon. Time to wander through the halls and see who else is here and, more importantly, actually awake. Mug UK (or 'mug-ukk') as some people initially called me :) 11:35 And here I was thinking that it was "Mug Uck". Well hey. There is a faint start of an exodus. Cronos 11:20 - Sammy Joe 25 Years years ago we were here in Holland for the first time. Now, the thrid STNICCC is pretty much getting to the end. It was an amazing time, I am so glad I came to see all the guys from my past. The most questions I was asked while staying at the STNICCC: 1) When and why did u cut your hair short? - my grandmother visited me in the UK, and youknow how pestering they can be. Hairs off. 2) Why dont you do any more stuf on the ST? When did u stop? - 1992 - I traded my Atari and all my discs for my first motorbike. 3) How did the Lost Boys start? When I moved to London from Germany, my parents invited all the neighbours in the road to our new home. Tim-Manikin and David-Spaz were amongst them. So, in the end, hadnt my parents not invited the nieghbours, the Lost Boys would propably never existed. 4) Do u still live in London? - No, I live in a small town near Ludwigsburg - Hemmingen - Germany. 25 five years later I attend the STNICCC, this time with my son and wife. Hmmm, strange enough, my son is now the crazy one, listening to metal, longish hair..... He ist the same age as I was in 1990. Its so great so see all the people again after so many years. Seeing the still active scene and what the guys still program on the ST. Just amazing. And I want to thank the people putting the Lost Boys stuff in Youtube and on the homepages, I love looking at our old stuff and the demos of the others. Another big THANKS goes to CHRIS HOLLAND for having kept Maggie alive for so long!! Now its time to say to good-bye - packing and heading back home. Hoping and looking forward to the STNICCC XXXX Yours Sammy Joe of The Lost Boys aka Michael Schuessler P.S. Sleep all day, Party all night, never grow old, never die. P.S.S. It was so nice seeing the other Lost Boys again after 25 years. Re-Union. One might say, the Found Boys. Thank you, and see ya all! 12:05 CiH logs on briefly, admin update and backup needed. We're over 31k of text, which is cool. Possibly 20k of that just added by Sammy Joe above. I'm off to lunch but will come back here slightly later on. 12:10 Baggio on the keys again after some much needed rest. This has been a great party and i hope i will be able to attend another one in about 15 years. Inbetween that i am hoping for Jace/HMD to arrange a party at reunion island. It would be awesome. #atari4life 12:16 Wingleader/Synergy on this good old stacy2 never seen this Atari 'laptop' before in my life. Even after 15 years not been active on my Atari and been to Atari party's (STNICCC 2000 was the real last time i attended a real Atari party) i still enjoy the old atmosphere. Talked to a lot of old Dutch sceners (MR NI! and Inshallah) but also had some breakfast with Omega and listened to the overscan/sync scrolling presentation of SYNC. Got excited by the demo's that where shown last night. And even had a laugh at my old code and first compact disks from 1989 and today we are trying to make a scsi tape streamer work to be able to read some old tapes. So much memories so much years have flown by. Signing off got something to eat, Wingleader 12:30 Being old and staying up well past bedtime meant I spent some quality time in my hotel bed this morning. Then made a beeline for the Koffiefabriek where I continued to wake up with strong coffee and a slab of Dutch apple pie. This has been an amazing experience so far with so many blasts from the past my head is spinning. Seeing the old demos, the Atari ST itself, a computer I spent so many hours in front of peering at 68000 assembly brought back floods of memories. New memories were made as well, strolling through Gouda's charming city center, eating cheese and stroopwafels and going on an epic restaurant hunt last night still stay with me for a long time I am sure. The competitions last night were great, impressive stuff is being done by people and it was fun to be on the jury. Congratulations to all the winners and may your STs run smooth and proper for many years to come! I'm off to Amsterdam soon, meeting up with my family who are currently on a plane from Stockholm. This will be another goodbye to the still thriving ST scene, although I will likely to fire up an emulator and check out some more demos in the days to come. I think I need to introduce my 12 year old son to what his dad used to do more than 25 years ago... Over and out. Stefan with all the guys around. 12.54 This realtime is turning into a precious record of the party as it happened. I'm pleased with the performance of this STacey, which has sat there uncomplaining over the whole three days. It seems that the idea of people using this machine was a welcome novelty. So I'd judge the realtime article to be a roaring success. As for events during the evening and after the party, my personal highlights are as follows: 1. Doug Little's awesome procedural feast of unexpanded Falcon feats. Incidentally, I learned over breakfast with Daniel Hedberg that we missed out on a demo from New Beat Developments, as work was started but a new child arrived to occupy the time instead! Still, something will come out of that one day. 2. The return of Cream, even if it wasn't the legendarily long awaited 'Heftig' demo. 3. The return of Oxygene in a really really special productions that contains the best of oldschool values. I'll be one of the first shouting for a hard disk file version please! 4. I'm not going to leave out Checkpoint, a bit rough around the edges but a couple of really great screens. 5. Paradox managed to include storytelling in their new demo, 'SaboTage'. In general, the entries just kept on coming and coming. It's as if the oldschool scene in particular had saved up all their stuff over the last 15 years. After the prizegiving ceremony, we got back to a peaceful hotel. My room had lost the comatose ex-room-mate. A peaceful crashing onto the pillows followed. This morning, there was a sort of sequel to the events of the Friday night. Bod was in the hotel reception, had recovered to some extent, and was very apologetic. It also appeared that he may have trouble in paying for his room and the bottle of whisky (70-80 EUR!) that he 'purchased' from the hotel. I could see what was coming, so took a deep breath and walked the hell out. By the time I let that breath out, I was in the town square! Anyway, back at the party place with a heavy sense of farewells and departures. CiH. 1:07pm Things are indeed slowly but surely coming to an end here, but what an incredible couple of days! So good to see all these people from the good old days, with quite a good representation by those who were present the first time around in 1990 in Oss! I have been in touch practically live with some of my friends from ST Connexion, and boy are they disappointed that they were not be able to join. I'd like to thank Richard for 1. actually following up on his promise to organize this event and 2.for doing such an excellent job on everything from the location to the available catering and 3. for convincing legends such as Rob Hubbard and Pete Lyon to come. Unbelievable! Here's to another STNICCC in the future (?) And let's make sure we stay in touch, because I think we have proven that the ST allowed us to meet, but that our friendships are now deep and go beyond this amazing machine. All the best. Klaus (Vantage / ST Connexion) 13:15 The last 2 days have been kind of spectacular. Its been 20+ years since I last saw many of these people. I came from Los Angeles to be here and it has been so worth the trip. I haven't made any demos since Ooh Crikey Wot a Scorcher about 23 years ago. It was a special time and I managed to make a great career in video games from the experience that I got finishing Demo screens. I also made a bunch of friendships that have survived the test of time better than almost any others and for that I am extremely thankful. Gouda has turned out to be a wonderful place, its been nice to get a taste of Europe just before xmas for the first time in many years. Thankyou Richard for organizing this, its been lovely and I appreciate being invited and all the work you put into getting this done. Thx to everyone who came, I will be remembering this for years. Tim Moss / Manikin / The Lost Boys Hi everyone! Leonard/OXYGENE on the keybard. We are more than proud to be part of that amazing party! so strange to be there and see so many Atar legends! We released the We Were @ demo and won the first place, what a great moment for atari people like us. Thanks again to Richard to organize such an event ATARI and demo coding really change my life direction. I'm really proud to be part of the Atari demo scene Arnaud Carre / Leonard / Oxygene Bonjour tout le monde ! Atari scene is a very important part of me. So i am so grateful to you all for teaching me so many things: asm code, pixels graphics, and many more, like friendship! Typing this text per example on a ST reminds me also the first article i made for the first french magazine about videogames. Without you, my life won't be the same. I would like to express my deepest thanks to everyone. MERCI BEAUCOUP ! Douglas Alves / Skaven / Invisibles+Masters Hello all, I want to thank Richard for organising this fantastic event. I was very nice meeting all people who I only knew as names and it is great to see them in person. I'm amazed that there still is so many activity on the Atari ST. The number competition entries far exeeded my expectations. And the quality was very high. I never expected the things that were shown was posible on the humble Atari ST. Thank to all for this amzing weekend. See you at the next STNICCC :-) Robert / The Atari Boys Ah that odd moment when you have to say goodbye to everybody, you are all sad and yet you need to write some words into the realtime blog just to leave your tiny track in the history of humanity (and more importantly, in the history of Atari). So what to say? Thank you all for those great times, those great demos and more than all that fantastic positive energy. I am now 41, I started with my Atari around the age of 14, and hopefully I will still use it for many years to come. I never look back towards the past just to remember with nostalgia those cherished moments, I look into the past to learn and bring back nowadays and for the future this positive energy and some of the great coding techniques onto modern technology. This is what drives me, and today that a lot of us are now brigning this spirit into many diverses companies. Anyway. Time to go, there is a huge queue of people queuing behind me. New Beats will kill me. See you all at the next STNICCC where hopefully I will have finally released my new program. Splash / Sector One yeah this was a great party, and i was very pleased to breath it again. After 2 night sleeping on the ground i be back in time. see you all in not just in 15 years again. Thyroxin of Avena Atari RuleZZZ 14:28 Wow! What a party! How fun it has been to visit with all the people from the Atari scene and to get to know some of the people starting it all. The number and quality of contributions to the competitions were amazing. Did not expect that! I had planned to release something at this party but at the beginning of the year it was clear that I would have another child, and I kind of gave up the idea of even being able to come here. Things turned out different, I did have another child, but it wasn't enough to stop me from coming here. Thank you Erika for letting me go! :-) Lots of people standing in line too give their contribution to this real-time Maggie article so I better quit and let the others have a shot but before that I would like to thank Richard for organizing this fantastic party! It met and exceeded all my expectations. THANK YOU! Daniel of New Beat 14.40 Amazing! Had a great time here in Gouda. Meeting all the nice people here made it clear why i chose the Atari scene in the first place. Im really going to remember the compo, two hours of new releases made it feel like 1991 all over again. I would like to thank Richard for making all this happen and my family for letting me go for the weekend. :-) See you at Sommarhack if youre going. Anders of New Beat 14:41 More and more people are leaving... I had a great time at STNICCC 2015 and would like to thank Richard for inviting me to the event. My thanks also goes to all guys I met here and talked to. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Gerry (The Thalion Source) 14:47 Troed of SYNC here, just having come back from all the discussions that happened after my presentation on the latest overscan and sync scrolling discoveries. Fantastic audience, and I got to meet a few of the key people involved in the creation of this fantastic part of the ST lore. Ilja / L16 solved the mystery of how he came up with the perfect fullscreen scanline stabilizer by explaining it was pure brute force, trials and luck. I leave STNICCC with a lot more knowledge, pure joy, and an enormous feeling of accomplishment having done something I never managed to do in the good old days. Release a demo on time. Troed / SYNC 14:50 Redhead of SYNC here. Massively impressed of what I have seen during these days and how people in the scene has relentlessly kept pushing the limits of the Atari ST since I left the scene a long time ago. Very pleased to meet old friends as well as new ones both from the old scene and people that came along after my time. Got quite inspired to play around with the old hardware again and immediately got around to counting clock cycles... Redhead / SYNC 15:03 Its BoNuS of DBA/FUN finally having a go at this realtime article :) Man, these have been a good few day back on the Atari again, I almost fogot what fun we had with it. Thanks Richard for another really great party, wouldn't have missed it for the world ! Shame I couldn't show my new game on the big screen during the compo since it isn't a real demo. But okay, I'll release a demo version fur sure so you can try it. Otherwise I could always release at at the next STNICCC party ;) Was really nice to see old friends again at the party, some really nice demo's and musics at the party released. So Atari is still fighting strong... Got to go now, other want to do their bit. C'ya around !!!! 3.11pm Just to say good bye to all of you: I have secured a seat in a car leaving for the Amsterdam-Schipol at 4pm - thanks Mr. Bee! My flight back to Copenhagen is at 8.15pm, so no stress. My friends from ST Connexion have been kept informed practically live of everything and I can tell you that they are even more sad that they were not able to join. I can't wait to tell Sengan (Alien) about the lovely feedback given by Troed on his work on our Punish Your Machine screen this morning. Seeing all these friends from the past has been amazing. You all take good care of yourselves, and on behalf of all ST Connexion members, I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year 2016. Oh, and thank you Jack Tramiel, Shiraz Shivji & Co for having created this wonderful machine and changed our lives. Klaus (Vantage / ST Connexion) 3.27pm I was very happy to come to an STNICC convention for the first time after all these years... I am back on the ST after 18 years of absence. So I was very happy so meet again and discuss with great people from the scene who got older like me ;) Also impressed by all the good work that has been produced for the convention and to see that a lot of new tricks have been experimented during these 18 years... I wish a merry Christmas to all ST demosceners and thanks the organizers for this great convention. Jerome (Metal Ages - Cybernetics) 3.34pm I had a wonderful time here. Marvelous to meet all those oldschoolers and some of my sceme heroes. Hippel and Hubbard are really friendly people, who also steel understand than some persons are still interested in doing things on ST. Also great to my all the long time friends and also some recent new or back comers. Competitions have also been super interesting, wonderful show. So thanks to Richard and all other organisers for this amazing histrorical event. Dma-Sc 15:42pm It was asome to meet all the atari st scene people once again after all those years. Organization and productions showed were brillant! Hope to meet you again on the next party, maybe Sillyventure 2016 or some other? Artur Karwatka / Vat / Luzak Team 15:47 It's been a while since I used my Atari, and honestly I didn't expect much by coming here - all I wanted was to meet old friends and have some laughs. What I've seen is mindblowing - a real, living scene dedicated to computer produced 30 years ago, pushing it even further to its limits. I'm so happy I could spend few days among the smartest and most creative human beings I know, thank you guys. And extra thanks to Richard for organising this event. Keep on rocking! And come to Sillyventure in 2016. :-) Maciej Matysiak 15:54 What an amazing time I had, first of all I want to thanks Richard for organizing this event. It has been great to spend time with people that became friends that I hadn't seen for such a long time. Richard asked me to be part of the jury, he made me a great favour and it was a honour for me to accept. I have been amazed to see that there was so many entries for the competition. Judging was hard especially between the different criteria: technical, design, machine constraints and so on. Time flies and it has been difficult to find time to write in this real time article, as I was busy to discuss with people, but now that people are heading off, and there is a queue waiting to write! I can't believe that our last production was 22 years ago! And ever more that people cary on with some passion. Presentation of Troed from Sync is great example. I hope to be able to keep in touch with some of you. I would like to write more but it is time to go. Thanks everybody for the great time. Patrick Bricout aka Mr Bee from The Overlanders 16:07 I had such a wonderful time meeting again with old friends from the old days, as well as newer teams still keeping the flame alive! Needless to say, meeting with living legends such as Rob Hubbard and Peter Lyon was also fantastic. The demo competition was awesome, seeing how people keep pushing the envelope, sharing their passion with everybody... I felt just the same as when I was a still a teenager watching the latest productions from our masters at the time, The Union and others legends. My sincere congratulations to all the people who spent the time and passion to make and show their productions for this convention, and I am sincerely feeling grateful for Richard organizing this wonderful event, reuniting such great people and giving us a so great time reuniting all together. Thanks you Richard!! And we sincerely hope for the next convention, secretely expecting that it will be not too far in the future ;). David Mistouflet aka Dim from The Overlanders 16:19 Wingleader, So the party is ending we've just packed our stuff in the car and speaking to old and new friends and had lot's fun of watching the old stuff. Trying old scsi dat tapes with a new/used tapestreamer supplied by Tos-crew and ruined all my old tapes ;-( but it gave some room so that i don't have to bring them home. Hopefully we will see eachother in 5 years in stead of 15 of 25 @richard ;-). Two or three days before it starts it sounds thats a lot of time untill you are there than time flies and before you know you can pickup the goodybag and drive back home ;-(. To all who attended the STNICCC 2015 enjoy your lives, enjoy the time you have with your loved ones before you now live takes a strange turn. 16:25 BoNuS again, just to say packed the car and all my stuff. Just back on the keys to say we needs this event again in 5 years from now :) Sad its over already, would have liked a day more on the Atari with friends. Atari people are a good bunch to have around and be around... 16:34 Can it be? Will this real-time artcle actually have some content from the most prolific real-time article blatherer this side of the digital divide? Yes, yes it will! This is TNS from AEnigmatica and The Quartermass Experiment. I have been reliably informed that this RTA is not 'valid' without my input. Well, here it is. And what a rush it is! Meeting people after 25 years who I thought probably dead or at least severely inconvenienced. Writing on a museum piece of a Stacy and actually doing not much more than relaxing in the Zen tent. I'm sadly also leaving very soon. It's been a blast meeting people again and for the first time. My main take-aways from this glorious convention: Music to meditate by and a brilliant Christmas CD. As you do. People, stay safe and have a good trip back home. I know I will. Oh, and apologies again for the lack of Brainwalk II. It will come at some point, I promise! 16:45 What a fantastic weekend with fellow Atari enthusiasts and sceners! The time has come where everyone is packing up and ready to go. Let's hope we don't have to wait too long for the next party. A fantastically organised event by Chronos with some great demos, music and graphics. Especially enjoyed Oxygene's demo and gwEn's music. It was lovely to meet some people I've known for many years, known about for many years, and innovators of their time. A chip music masterclass has been one of the highlights of the event for me, listening and watching Jochen Hippel demonstrate his tracker, while DMA-SC and gwEn watched with interest. It was also a special experience watching and listening to gwEn demonstrate his great maxYMiser tracker. I would not of believed in my wildest dreams I would be sitting next to such guys watching what they were doing - true masters. Time to sign off now, until next time. Back to reality, and Christmas 2015! Stay Atari!! /|\ Tronic of Effect /|\ 16:54 : Time to leave ... It was a really great convention and It's a big pleasure to be here. It was so cool and fun. It was a really nice to meet again Atari sceners especially some that I seen last time more than 20 years ago. Thanks to everybody to be so cool and a really big hup to Cronos to have organized this huge convention. Special message to Cronos, please don't wait 15 years to organize the next STNICCC ;) Atari for life !!! Megadeth from The Pendragons / Prism 17:06: All good things must come to an end unfortunately. What can i say that hasn't been said before? It was a great party and i would have never expected to meet the very people who got me started in doing demos and graphics. Meeting Pete Lyon was a blast since he's one of the guy whose artwork inspired me back in the days. Sometimes you put a lot of expectations in people and you can end up sorely disappointed. It hasn't been the case here, Pete is one of the most humble and talented artist i've had the privilege to meet. And the same can be said of all the legends i've met here. Thanks to the scene for having been such an inspiration and thanks a lot to the man, Richard Karsmakers, for having pulled out such a great party. Mic/Dune signing off 17:18 Finally I had some time to write something in the realtime article and....it will be the last one as well unfortunately. :-( Just because the party has almost come to an end. I was quite blown away by meeting up all these people from the past, seeing some great demo's and hearing some great musix as well. Next time however I will be sleeping in a hotel instead of oldskool style on a small matras with some guys snoring and farting in my surroundings...oh man, that was quite awfull... Anyways...thank you to all you guys for the great happening and especially to Richard (Crono) for organizing such a great event!!! Hope to see you at the next event...where and whenever that may be! ;-) Hotmailer (aka The Hardware Underground) signing off!! Chuck/Dune Thanks for this good party Time to quit with my head full of good souvenirs ... See u dudes 17:36 This is the first time I've got on here in ages. There's been a constant queue of people saying goodbye to the party in realtime form. The last admin update, about an hour or so ago, contained nearly 40-50k of text. There will be more to add shortly. I'm not sure what time this is going to close down, but we're out of here right at the end of the party, which is around 20:30 hours. I guess a lot will depend on when Mr Cronos decides to have his last words on here. As for the party, it has been another of the legends, but possibly this time, the description carries a little more weight than usual. There is going to be a first person viewpoint report from myself in Maggie, as well as this realtime. But it is fair to say that this will be one of the epic realtimes of all time when it is done. CiH. 17:42 Well, I couldn't leave just a couple of words on this article, so I'm (Hotmailer) back for this moment to take the opportunity to type some more things about the thing I did see and hear. It was great to meet up with people from the past, but also great to speak with such great people as Rob Hubbard and other people from the scene. Well Richard and Ruth are standing nearby be so I will wrap things up so that they can write something as well. Bye everyone! So long and thanks for all the fish!!!! Hotmailer (aka the Hardware Underground) signing off..... Cronos' wife (Ruth) here. I had a lot of fum meeting everyone. Especially talking different languages and seeing my bubby in his element. Enjoyed the cill zone, the tea and especially the company. Hope to see you all in 2040. 17:57 Just trying to describe the last few days and can't come up with proper words. Let's just say it was a complete blast! Meeting alot of theold people, even some German Alliance fellows - I really wouldn't have thought to be meeting people from so far back. Oldschool and Oldschoolest. Having seen things in the compo that simply aren't possible did it's part to to classify this party as unreal. We have to convince Cronos to do another one! Bye tIn/newline 18:03 The day is slowly crawling to a close. About 20-30 people remain (the true hard core, I guess). Many partings, a lot of sweet sorrow. Facebook is filling with testimonies, selfies and ussies. Warm feeling. Oh, and hunger, yes. Hunger. Cronos 18:07 My chance to become immortal as Richard said. This time I made it to STNICC. And it was worth it for the Goodie bag alone! Thanks Richard! NAN / INVALID 18:15 So, this was STNICCC (almost). It was a once in a lifetime experience and definetly not your average demo party. A lot of entries in the competitions, a lot of nice people of the new school, a lot of nice people of the old school. So manz thanks to Richard for making this happen. The Paranoid / Paradox 19:02 Time is relative. So is passion. There are a few, who transcend boundaries and create a timeless network. We are lucky to have such a unique, friendly, loyal and awesome HUB. Thank you, Richard and Ruth! Namaste .Chris of ULM 20:00 illegal of replicants : what a bloody qwerty keyboard. i leave stniccc now. i am so glad to have met friends and all of the good old scene. id love this would happen again soon. get in touch with me. and remember what is good for you is to stay as young as you are and of course hack the absurdity om this planet. cheers, kiss, friendship to you all including coders, swappers, crackers, and lamers... ;) see ya... 19:24 The end is getting nigher. The 'fat lady' singing to close down this epically proportioned realtime article will be Richard K, Mr Cronos himself. The last few people are knocking down the tents, so to speak. So it's goodbye from me, and see you at another party soon(ish). Tata for now. CiH.. 19:32 Anxious is the proper word for how I feel now I have had bestowed upon my tired shoulders the honour of wrapping up the Real Time Article. There must be something literary or historical happening, or both, or quite possibly neither. At any rate, the Convention has been rather a resounding succes surrounded by general utterings in the vein of "yay" or, indeed, "woohoo!". I fear I might have said before that it was the best weekend of my life, but I now have to conclude that this was no mere hyperbole or other exaggeration. In fact it was and is true. I am very happy, I am very content. I am also very beat so this was it. Cronos ------- Official End of STNICCC 25th realtime article!! --------Back to the Travelling.
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